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03:35:22 PM Overview of Salmon Stocks and Management Plans in Upper Cook Inlet
04:58:36 PM Adjourn
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in Upper Cook Inlet
Department of Fish and Game
Charlie Swanton, Director, Sport Fish Division
Tracy Lingnau, Regional Supervisor, Central
Region
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 28, 2014                                                                                         
                           3:34 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Cathy Giessel, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                          
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Anna Fairclough                                                                                                         
Senator Hollis French                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Fred Dyson, Vice Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Lesil McGuire                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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OVERVIEW OF SALMON STOCKS AND MANAGEMENT PLANS IN UPPER COOK                                                                    
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHARLIE SWANTON, Director                                                                                                       
Division of Sport Fisheries                                                                                                     
Alaska Department of Fish and Game (ADF&G)                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented an overview of Upper Cook Inlet                                                                 
(UCI) salmon stocks and the management plans governing these                                                                    
fisheries.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
TRACY LINGNAU, Supervisor                                                                                                       
Region II, Division of Commercial Fisheries                                                                                     
Alaska Department of Fish and Game (ADF&G)                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented an overview of Upper Cook Inlet                                                                 
(UCI) salmon stocks and the management plans governing these                                                                    
fisheries.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BILL TEMPLIN, Principal Geneticist                                                                                              
Genetics Lab                                                                                                                    
Alaska Department of Fish and Game (ADF&G)                                                                                      
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Answered  salmon genetics  questions  about                                                             
Upper Cook Inlet.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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3:34:05 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  CATHY   GIESSEL  called  the  Senate   Resources  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 3:34  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order were Senators Micciche, Fairclough, and Chair Giessel.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^Overview of  Salmon Stocks  and Management  Plans in  Upper Cook                                                               
Inlet                                                                                                                           
       Overview of Salmon Stocks and Management Plans in                                                                    
                        Upper Cook Inlet                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:35:22 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL said  that  earlier the  committee  heard from  12                                                               
salmon user groups and today  would hear from the department that                                                               
would give an  overview of salmon stocks and  management plans in                                                               
Upper Cook Inlet.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:35:49 PM                                                                                                                    
CHARLIE SWANTON,  Director, Division  of Sport  Fisheries, Alaska                                                               
Department  of Fish  and Game  (ADF&G), introduced  Tracy Lingnau                                                               
and said  together they would  present an overview of  Upper Cook                                                               
Inlet  (UCI) salmon  stocks and  the  management plans  governing                                                               
these fisheries. The purpose of  this presentation is to describe                                                               
some  of the  geography of  UCI, the  stocks of  salmon that  run                                                               
through it, and the management  plans which guide the harvest and                                                               
allocation  of  those  stocks, and  how  those  management  plans                                                               
inter-relate to each other and to the various stocks.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:36:20 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH joined committee.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:36:55 PM                                                                                                                    
TRACY  LINGNAU, Supervisor,  Region  II,  Division of  Commercial                                                               
Fisheries, Alaska Department  of Fish and Game  (ADF&G), said the                                                               
Upper  Cook  Inlet  is  managed  into  two  distinct  areas,  the                                                               
Northern  District with  its  southern  boundary between  Boulder                                                               
Point on the east side and to  a coordinate on the west side, and                                                               
the Central District  with its northern boundary at  a line above                                                               
Boulder Point  and the southern  boundary is at the  Anchor Point                                                               
latitude.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
All  five species  of salmon  are  found in  UCI. Drainages  that                                                               
support  these  species are  the  Susitna  River Drainage,  which                                                               
includes  the Yentna  River,  and  to the  east  of the  Northern                                                               
District, the  Little Susitna  River and  the Knik  and Turnagain                                                               
Arms. The largest sockeye salmon  producers in Cook Inlet are the                                                               
Kenai  and Kasilof  Rivers. The  systems  to the  west and  north                                                               
include Theodore,  Chuitna, Beluga, and  Lewis; to the  south and                                                               
west: the Crescent, Drift, and Kustatan Rivers.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
He  said that  only  set  gillnets are  allowed  in the  Northern                                                               
District  and both  drift and  set  gillnets are  allowed in  the                                                               
Central District.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:37:26 PM                                                                                                                    
Other terms commonly  used are references to  the various fishing                                                               
sections  that have  been  developed by  the  Board of  Fisheries                                                               
(BOF) through time:  the Kenai and Kasilof  Sections were adopted                                                               
in 1996;  more recently the Kenai/Kasilof  Expanded Sections were                                                               
developed, and  this past  February an  Anchor Point  Section was                                                               
developed.  These  sections  are  used to  harvest  Kenai  and/or                                                               
Kasilof River  sockeye salmon while  allowing northern  stocks to                                                               
move through to their drainages.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON  said Cook Inlet  is one  of the most  complex salmon                                                               
fisheries  in the  state and  a  suite of  management plans  were                                                               
addressed at  the February  14th UCI  board meeting.  These plans                                                               
include  subsistence fisheries  in  Tyonek and  the Upper  Yentna                                                               
River,  personal use  fisheries in  the Kenai/Kasilof/Beluga  and                                                               
Fish Creeks,  sport and guided  sport fishing, and set  and drift                                                               
gillnet  commercial  fisheries.   There  were  approximately  236                                                               
proposals with  in-depth information for each  available prior to                                                               
and at the board meeting.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:39:11 PM                                                                                                                    
He explained that the Upper  Cook Inlet Salmon Management Plan is                                                               
the umbrella  plan that covers  all of  Cook Inlet; it  was first                                                               
adopted in 1977  and it has been reviewed at  every board meeting                                                               
since. It guides  the harvest and allocation of  stocks through a                                                               
series of step-down plans; examples  are the Kenai River Late-Run                                                               
Sockeye  Management Plan,  the Central  District Gillnet  Fishery                                                               
Management  Plan,  and  the  Kenai  River  Late-Run  King  Salmon                                                               
Management  Plan.     These  step-down  plans   provide  specific                                                               
directives  to the  department for  in-season  management of  the                                                               
various resources  and they often  lay out the allocation  of the                                                               
resource. They are structured around  the migratory timing of the                                                               
various salmon stocks as they move through Cook Inlet.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:39:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LINGNAU explained that their  display on slide 6 reflects the                                                               
general run timing of the stocks  with the early sockeye and king                                                               
salmon runs  in May  and early June  being fairly  well separated                                                               
from the other stocks. This is  followed by a mixture of late-run                                                               
sockeye, late-run kings,  early coho, pink, and  chum salmon that                                                               
all come in  late June through early August.  The overlapping run                                                               
timing in many  of these follow the same  migratory pathways. The                                                               
bulk of  the UCI management  challenges lie  in front of  them in                                                               
the late June and July timeframe.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:40:21 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP joined the committee.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. LINGNAU said slide 7  incorporated the various plans into the                                                               
run  timing  of the  salmon  stocks.  There  are  a total  of  17                                                               
different  management  plans and  the  ones  listed here  do  not                                                               
include other guidelines  such as gear, bag  limits, seasons, and                                                               
others. Three step-down  plans cover the entire  season: the Cook                                                               
Inlet  Subsistence Fisheries  Plan, UCI  Personal Use  Management                                                               
Plan and the Riparian Habitat Plan.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He explained that most of  UCI is designated as a non-subsistence                                                               
area; however  there are two  subsistence fisheries:  the Tyonek,                                                               
which is aimed at king salmon  by using set gillnets, and another                                                               
one that uses fish wheels with a live box.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:42:10 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SWANTON  continued that  although  the  Personal Use  Salmon                                                               
Management Plan overlaps  all of the timeframes,  its emphasis is                                                               
during  July  when Kasilof  sockeye  and  late-run Kenai  sockeye                                                               
migrate into  the Inlet. These  fisheries began in 1982  and have                                                               
evolved from  subsistence fisheries that  were in place  prior to                                                               
the designation  of non-subsistence use  areas in 1992.  There is                                                               
one personal use  fishery at the mouth of the  Kasilof River that                                                               
uses  set gillnets  to target  Kasilof sockeye,  but most  of the                                                               
opportunity  provided in  personal use  fisheries is  in the  two                                                               
dipnet fisheries, one at the mouth  of the Kasilof and one at the                                                               
mouth of the  Kenai River. There are two  additional personal use                                                               
fisheries that are quite a bit  smaller, a dipnet fishery in Fish                                                               
Creek near Wasilla and a second  on the Beluga River open only to                                                               
senior citizens.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:42:48 PM                                                                                                                    
The  department also  has Riparian  Habitat  Plans. The  riparian                                                               
zone  is a  vegetative zone  along the  banks of  the river  that                                                               
provides important  rearing areas for juvenile  salmon. While the                                                               
plan covers the  entire year, there is an emphasis  in the middle                                                               
timeframe in July  because of the intensive  in-river usage then.                                                               
The primary objective of this plan  is to be able to regulate in-                                                               
river  fisheries  to  protect  riparian   habitat.  Most  of  the                                                               
assessment  and  application  occurs during  the  late-run  Kenai                                                               
River fisheries.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Plans prior to  July 1 include the Northern  District King Salmon                                                               
Plan,  the  Kenai/Kasilof Early-Run  King  Salmon  Plan, the  Big                                                               
River  Sockeye Plan,  and the  UCI Marine  Early-run King  Salmon                                                               
Plan.  There  is also  the  Russian  River Sockeye  Plan  Fishery                                                               
Management Plan,  which covers the  whole season but  contains an                                                               
early part  for the early Russian  River sockeye run and  a later                                                               
part that covers the later one.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:43:23 PM                                                                                                                    
He  said that  most of  the stocks  prior to  July 1  are managed                                                               
primarily for  recreational purposes. During the  early timeframe                                                               
there  are  freshwater fisheries  for  king  salmon and  a  sport                                                               
fishery targeting  early run Russian  River sockeye.  Also during                                                               
this  timeframe  the  Northern District  has  a  commercial  king                                                               
salmon fishery and  on the west side a  sockeye salmon commercial                                                               
fishery.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:44:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  LINGNAU  stated  that  the  Northern  District  King  Salmon                                                               
Management Plan  addresses management  of a directed  king salmon                                                               
fishery that  occurs on the first  Monday on or after  May 25 and                                                               
goes through June  24. Depending on the calendar  year, there are                                                               
between 4  and 5 commercial  periods during this  timeframe. Each                                                               
of these commercial periods is  12 hours long. However, in recent                                                               
years because  of the poor  king salmon runs both  commercial and                                                               
sport  fisheries  have  been   substantially  restricted  in  the                                                               
Northern District drainage.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The Kenai/Kasilof  Rivers Early-Run King Salmon  Plan is designed                                                               
to ensure adequate escapement and  conserve the unique large-size                                                               
Kenai River king. It primarily  governs the sport fishery harvest                                                               
because  there  is  little  or no  commercial  fishing  on  these                                                               
stocks.  The  plan  contains  size limits  on  king  salmon  that                                                               
anglers  can harvest  on  the Kenai  River  and provides  options                                                               
managers  can   choose  from  to  restrict   these  fisheries  if                                                               
necessary.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The Big River Sockeye Salmon  Plan addresses a commercial fishery                                                               
on the  west side of Cook  Inlet in the Kustatan  Subdistrict and                                                               
also on  the west  side of  Kalgin Island.  The Upper  Cook Inlet                                                               
Salt  Water Early-Run  King Salmon  Management Plan  is meant  to                                                               
stabilize the sport fish harvest  of early-run king salmon in the                                                               
mixed stock marine fishery. These  are waters near Deep Creek and                                                               
Anchor Point. The  Plan established closed waters  near the mouth                                                               
of  local  streams  and  a  guideline  harvest  level  for  sport                                                               
harvest.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:46:03 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  LINGNAU   said  that  the   Russian  River   Sockeye  Salmon                                                               
Management Plan is to ensure  adequate escapement and provide for                                                               
a management guideline to preclude  allocation effects. The early                                                               
run is harvested primarily in the  sport fishery; the late run is                                                               
harvested by sport, commercial and personal use fisheries.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The plan for the late-run  Russian River sockeye provides options                                                               
for  restricting  the in-river  fishery  and  specifies that  the                                                               
least  restrictive  option should  be  used  early to  avoid  the                                                               
necessity  for more  restrictive and  complete closures  later in                                                               
the season.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:47:04 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.   SWANTON  said   the  Board   of  Fisheries   (BOF)  through                                                               
implementation  of the  Sustainable  Salmon Fisheries  Management                                                               
Policy  has  designated seven  Northern  Cook  Inlet king  salmon                                                               
stocks  as  stocks  of concern:  the  Chuitna,  Theodore,  Lewis,                                                               
Alexander, Willow, Sheep,  and Goose Creeks. He  provided a table                                                               
that summarized  recent escapements for  each of the  king salmon                                                               
stocks currently  designated as  a stock  of concern  saying that                                                               
escapements had  been low  for each  of the  last five  years and                                                               
only in 2013  did two stocks, the Chuitna and  Willow Creek, meet                                                               
their escapement.  Eleven of 16  Northern Cook Inlet  king salmon                                                               
escapement goals  were achieved in  2013, which is  a significant                                                               
improvement upon previous years.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:47:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LINGNAU  said the largest  number of management plans  are in                                                               
effect in the middle timeframe  (July). Plan highlights: sockeye,                                                               
chum,  and  pink  salmon  stocks move  through  UCI  during  this                                                               
timeframe  and are  managed primarily  for  commercial uses.  The                                                               
Kenai  River late-run  king salmon  stocks are  managed primarily                                                               
for  sport and  guided uses  and also  minimizing the  incidental                                                               
take  of the  Northern District  coho, late-run  Kenai kings  and                                                               
Kenai  River   coho  in  the  commercial   fisheries.  The  major                                                               
fisheries   occurring  during   this  time   include  commercial,                                                               
personal use, sport and guided sport.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:48:37 PM                                                                                                                    
He  said the  Kasilof  River Salmon  Management  Plan covers  the                                                               
harvest  of  Kasilof River  sockeye  salmon.  Part of  this  plan                                                               
states  that  achieving   the  lower  end  of   the  Kenai  River                                                               
escapement goal takes precedent over  not exceeding the upper end                                                               
of the optimum  escapement goal in the Kasilof  River. This means                                                               
that  50,000  additional  sockeye  salmon  may  escape  into  the                                                               
Kasilof  River in  order  to ensure  that the  lower  end of  the                                                               
escapement goal is met in the  Kenai River. This fishery opens on                                                               
or after June 25;  however, it may also open as  early as June 20                                                               
based on a 50,000-sockeye salmon trigger.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
From the  beginning of the  fishery through  July 7 there  are 48                                                               
hours of  additional fishing time  per week beyond  the regularly                                                               
scheduled 12-hour fishing periods. Fishing  is also closed for 36                                                               
consecutive  hours per  week beginning  sometime  between 7  p.m.                                                               
Thursday  night  and 7  a.m.  Friday  morning.  There is  also  a                                                               
terminal  harvest  area,  which  encompasses  the  mouth  of  the                                                               
Kasilof River that has been used  when the Kasilof River is going                                                               
to  exceed its  escapement goal  and all  other management  tools                                                               
have been used to control the escapement.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
After  July  7  the  Kasilof River  Sockeye  Management  Plan  is                                                               
married to the Late-run Kenai River Sockeye Management Plan.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:49:57 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SWANTON said the Kenai  River Late-run King Salmon Management                                                               
Plan provides  for adequate escapement  of late-run  king salmon.                                                               
It's managed primarily  for sport and guided sport  uses in order                                                               
for the  salmon to be  harvested over  the entire run.  This plan                                                               
provides   specific  direction   on  managing   both  sport   and                                                               
commercial fisheries.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Preseason  or  in-season  actions  are   to  be  taken  based  on                                                               
projecting the  in-river run  and whether  or not  the escapement                                                               
goal will  be achieved. Unlike  the Kenai River  Late-run Sockeye                                                               
Salmon Management Plan, the run  projections are not specifically                                                               
tied to the  sonar project. All available information  is used in                                                               
developing  projected returns  including creel  surveys, in-river                                                               
test  netting  and  commercial setnet  harvests.  The  plan  also                                                               
states that if  the in-river sport fishery is  closed, the marine                                                               
sport fishery off  of Deep Creek and a  commercial setnet fishery                                                               
are also closed.  If the in-river sport fishery  remains open but                                                               
is restricted  to no  bait, the  commercial fishery  would remain                                                               
open but  also be restricted to  no bait. Finally, the  plan also                                                               
provides  direction   to  the   department  to   conduct  habitat                                                               
assessments  as feasible  and report  findings during  the normal                                                               
board cycle.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:51:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  LINGNAU  said  that  at  the recent  UCI  board  meeting  in                                                               
February 2014 new  regulations were passed pertaining  to how the                                                               
east side setnet  fishery would be fished in years  with low runs                                                               
of  king  salmon.  These  plans  would  be  implemented  together                                                               
beginning July 1 and are  paired with sport fish restrictions. If                                                               
less than 15,000  kings are being projected,  the sport fisheries                                                               
in  the Kenai  River and  in  the salt  water are  closed to  the                                                               
taking of king salmon. The east  side set gillnet fishery is also                                                               
closed  and  no drift  fishing  may  occur  within 1.5  miles  of                                                               
shoreline.  When  the  projected escapement  is  between  15,000-                                                               
22,500  and the  sport  fishery  is allowed  to  continue but  no                                                               
retention  (catch and  release),  then only  12  hours of  setnet                                                               
commercial fishing per  week is allowed on the east  side. If the                                                               
sport fishery  is limited  to no  bait, essentially  reducing the                                                               
harvest by 50 percent, then no more  than 36 hours can be used in                                                               
the east side set gillnet fishery.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The board also stipulated that  after August 1 commercial fishing                                                               
could  only occur  if  the  escapement goal  is  projected to  be                                                               
greater than 16,500 fish. In  addition, step-down plans passed in                                                               
February state  that in  the commercial  fishery during  times of                                                               
low king  salmon abundance the  department can reduce  the number                                                               
of nets  being used. Typically,  three nets  are used by  the set                                                               
gillnet  fleet, but  now  the department  can  require less  than                                                               
three nets.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Also,  a significant  change in  the history  of the  set gillnet                                                               
fishery  in  2014  is  the  incorporation of  the  29  mesh  deep                                                               
gillnets. Typically, fishermen  use 45 mesh deep  gillnets, but a                                                               
few have started to use 29 mesh deep nets.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:53:17 PM                                                                                                                    
He said the Kenai River  Late-run Sockeye Plan, which is separate                                                               
from the  plan he just described,  is more complex and  goes into                                                               
effect  on July  8  and  also includes  the  Kasilof section.  It                                                               
directs the  department to manage the  late-run sockeye primarily                                                               
for  commercial uses  but yet  minimize the  harvest of  Northern                                                               
District coho, late-run Kenai River  king salmon, as well as coho                                                               
salmon  moving into  that area.  Windows of  closed fishing  also                                                               
provide  for  personal  use   and  sport  fishing  opportunities.                                                               
Management  objectives   specified  are   to  meet   the  optimum                                                               
escapement goal, which is 700,000  to 1.4 million sockeye salmon,                                                               
and to achieve in-river goals.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
In  addition  to the  two  regular  scheduled 12-hour  commercial                                                               
fishing periods,  time is  allowed dependent  upon the  run size.                                                               
Essentially,  the  bigger  the  run  the  more  fishing  time  is                                                               
allowed.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
An in-river  goal is  different than an  escapement goal  in that                                                               
the in-river goal includes allocations  of sockeye salmon for the                                                               
sport fishery above the sonar site,  which is located at mile 19.                                                               
That site has a sockeye  salmon escapement goal that provides for                                                               
harvest above  the sonar  site for  in-river users.  The Late-run                                                               
Kenai  Plan has  established goals  based upon  the expected  run                                                               
size. If the Kenai River sockeye  salmon run is going to be small                                                               
or less than 2.3  million, then there is one goal.  If the run is                                                               
between 2.3  and 4.6 million,  there is  a second goal  that adds                                                               
more fish to the in-river users.  If it's over 4.6 million, there                                                               
is a  third goal, which even  provides more fish to  the in-river                                                               
users.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:55:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  LINGNAU  said  the  drift  fishery  occurs  in  the  Central                                                               
District as well as in  the various sections he outlined earlier.                                                               
The Central District  is divided up into four  drift areas; drift                                                               
fishermen  do not  necessary  get to  fish  the entire  district.                                                               
There are certain time periods  and specific areas where and when                                                               
fishermen can go.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:55:46 PM                                                                                                                    
He said that in the recent  board meeting action was taken on the                                                               
drift fishery. From July 9 to  July 15 drifters are restricted to                                                               
the  expanded  corridor  and  drift gillnet  area  1  during  the                                                               
regular fishing  periods. From July  16 through July 31,  in runs                                                               
of less than 2.3 million  Kenai River sockeye salmon, all regular                                                               
12-hour   fishing  periods   are  restricted   to  the   expanded                                                               
Kenai/Kasilof  sections  of  the   upper  subdistrict.  For  runs                                                               
between 2.3 million  and 4.6 million sockeye salmon  to the Kenai                                                               
River, one regular  fishing period per week is  restricted to any                                                               
combination of the sections on the  right hand side and Area 1 on                                                               
the left side.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The second  period is restricted  to any combination of  the east                                                               
side sections  only. In runs  of over 4.6 million  sockeye salmon                                                               
to  the Kenai  River  between July  16 and  31  only one  fishing                                                               
period per week is restricted to  the east side sections shown on                                                               
the right and there are no  restrictions for the second period in                                                               
that week. Additional  fishing time that is allowed  to the drift                                                               
fishery is restricted to the  east side setnet sections described                                                               
on the right of his slide 24.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:57:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  LINGNAU said  the Northern  District Salmon  Management Plan                                                               
directs  the  department  to  manage   the  harvest  of  Northern                                                               
District chum, pink, and sockeye  salmon primarily for commercial                                                               
uses, to  minimize the harvest  of Northern District  coho salmon                                                               
and to  provide for sport  and guided sport opportunity.  This is                                                               
done  by not  allowing additional  commercial fishing  periods of                                                               
coho  that are  thought to  be the  most abundant  stock in  that                                                               
particular harvest. The Northern District  is also limited to the                                                               
regular 12-hour  fishing periods  on Mondays and  Thursdays after                                                               
August 15.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:58:23 PM                                                                                                                    
The Susitna River  sockeye salmon were declared to be  a stock of                                                               
yield concern in 2008 and is  managed by the action plan that was                                                               
developed at that time with  regular fishing periods only between                                                               
June 25 and July  19, and then between July 20  and August 6 only                                                               
one net may be used. However,  if escapement goals are being met,                                                               
additional nets can be used.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The Susitna River  sockeye salmon being a stock  of yield concern                                                               
means that escapement  goals have been met, but  the harvest from                                                               
fishermen has declined.  He showed a map of  three sockeye salmon                                                               
goals that  are now monitored  by weirs; Chelatna Lake,  which is                                                               
part of the Yentna River drainage, Larson and Judd Lakes.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:58:42 PM                                                                                                                    
Larson Lake is part of the  main stem Susitna River. Beginning in                                                               
2009 the  Yentna River sockeye  salmon escapement goal,  which is                                                               
based on a  Bendix sonar and fish wheel  apportionment study, was                                                               
replaced by  the three lake  weir goals. Chelatna and  Judd Lakes                                                               
represent  approximately   42  percent  of  the   sockeye  salmon                                                               
migrating  into  the Yentna  River.  The  Chelatna Lake  goal  is                                                               
20,000 to 65,000  fish and that has been achieved  or exceeded in                                                               
four of the  past five years. Judd Lake sockeye  salmon's goal is                                                               
25,000 to 55,000 sockeye and it  has been achieved or exceeded in                                                               
two of the past five years, but not achieved in three years.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:59:39 PM                                                                                                                    
Larson  Lake that  is one-half  of  the main  stem Susitna  River                                                               
escapement  goal is  15,000 to  50,000 fish  and tagging  studies                                                               
have indicated  it has  been achieved  in four  of the  past five                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:00:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LINGNAU  summarized that these  management plans  are complex                                                               
by themselves and how they  interact with each other and carrying                                                               
them  out  in-season   requires  coordination  and  communication                                                               
between the two  management divisions. In years  of low abundance                                                               
with any species this coordination typically includes directors.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Meeting  the escapement  goals is  the primary  objective of  all                                                               
management plans,  he said.  The department  has been  clear that                                                               
meeting  the lower  end  of  the goal  has  a  priority over  not                                                               
exceeding  the  upper  end  of  another  escapement  goal.  These                                                               
management plans  are structured  around the migratory  timing of                                                               
stocks  as they  move  into  and through  Cook  Inlet. They  also                                                               
include   step-down  plans   that  provide   specific  management                                                               
objectives to  the department for both  management and allocation                                                               
in each of those fisheries.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:01:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SWANTON said the committee  already had a presentation on the                                                               
Chinook salmon  research initiative,  but he wanted  to highlight                                                               
important research activities that are  ongoing as it pertains to                                                               
Chinook  salmon.  In  the Susitna  River  drainage  projects  are                                                               
currently using  other funding sources such  as Susitna/Watana or                                                               
Alaska Energy  Authority, the CIP  that was derived in  2014, and                                                               
Alaska Sustainable Salmon Funds  (AKSSSF). These projects include                                                               
looking  at adult  spawning abundance,  juvenile abundance,  Cook                                                               
Inlet  area harvest,  genetic  stock  identification, coded  wire                                                               
tagging, and local and traditional knowledge.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The  Kenai River  already has  a  fair amount  of research  being                                                               
conducted with the new sonar, but  they have also been looking at                                                               
Kenai River kings in the Cook  Inlet area in terms of harvest and                                                               
apportionment  of those  harvests using  genetics and  coded wire                                                               
tagging of juveniles.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:02:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LINGNAU  showed a  map that  depicted some  of the  new major                                                               
king and coho  fishery research projects. They  include the three                                                               
lake weir  projects previously mentioned  and the  sockeye salmon                                                               
fish wheel  project on the  Susitna River where the  Yentna comes                                                               
in; they are  trying to find a feasible means  to reestablish the                                                               
sonar to better manage these  stocks. Also in that same location,                                                               
chum/king and coho  salmon mark recapture studies  are being done                                                               
to evaluate the total run of these stocks.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The Fish Creek sockeye salmon  smolt project studies out-migrants                                                               
to  help the  department better  understand the  lifecycle, which                                                               
also provides greater detail for forecasting run strength.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Throughout Cook Inlet genetic sampling  is a critical part of any                                                               
mixed stock  fishery, not  only to determine  how many  fish were                                                               
caught,  but to  find out  where those  fish were  going. Genetic                                                               
stock identification  provides the  department an  estimation for                                                               
the stock  harvested in a  mixed stock fishery.  This information                                                               
along with escapement information  allows them to more accurately                                                               
estimate  escapement   goals.  It   also  allows  them   to  gain                                                               
information on  how stocks  move through  Cook Inlet  across time                                                               
and area.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Another  project  allows them  to  go  back  in time  to  analyze                                                               
historical  information  that  improves   brood  tables  used  in                                                               
determining  escapement   goals  and  that  may   allow  them  to                                                               
determine how big run sizes were historically.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A  post  season  identification   project  improves  their  total                                                               
estimation  for each  stock harvested  in mixed  stock fisheries.                                                               
Using genetics  provides a more robust  escapement goal analysis,                                                               
and separates the  Kenai, Kasilof and other stocks  that might be                                                               
harvested in the east side sector net fisheries.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The  department is  currently developing  a new  genetic baseline                                                               
for Cook  Inlet coho salmon, a  new project that is  a first time                                                               
for the  species using  coho genetics in  a mixed  stock fishery.                                                               
This is  necessary to  understand the total  run, which  is catch                                                               
and escapement in these fisheries.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:05:44 PM                                                                                                                    
Post season stock  identification of coho salmon  is a three-year                                                               
project.  It  will  improve their  understand  overall  of  stock                                                               
specific assessment of coho salmon.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The Anchor Point  line test fishery has been in  place since 1979                                                               
providing run  timing and  abundance of  sockeye salmon  that are                                                               
moving into UCI. This project has  been a key factor in providing                                                               
the  in-season  total run.  Having  this  information allows  the                                                               
department to  do an  in-season projection and  if they  need to,                                                               
they can make adjustments to the management plans in season.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A northern drift  test fishery began in 2012 funded  by a capital                                                               
improvement project (CIP) for five  years. This next year will be                                                               
the third year  of that project. Sockeye and  coho salmon genetic                                                               
samples are being  collected to determine their  river of origin.                                                               
This is a first coho genetic study ever done in UCI.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:06:33 PM                                                                                                                    
Another one  is a  multi-year study  that began  in Region  II to                                                               
implement  a new  sonar called  Didson, which  is dual  frequency                                                               
identification sonar  with a 29  degree field of view  and either                                                               
an  8 or  a 14  degree  vertical beam.  It counts  more fish  and                                                               
counts  them accurately,  therefore providing  better information                                                               
on escapements. The Kenai portion of  the study began in 2004 and                                                               
the Kasilof began in 2006.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The Bendix counter  is an echo-counting single beam  sonar with 2                                                               
and 4 degree  circular beams. The information they  got from this                                                               
machine  was  essentially  a  ticker tape  that  they  would  add                                                               
numbers on.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Fish moving  through the  Didson sonar  beam providing  much more                                                               
accurate counts  and allows the  video to be archived  for future                                                               
studies.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:08:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SWANTON  continued  that  a suite  of  stock  assessment  or                                                               
escapement  enumeration  projects  is   being  conducted  by  the                                                               
Sportfish Division  and they are  depicted on slide 39.  They are                                                               
broken into  two broad categories:  long-standing -  greater than                                                               
10 years in duration (slide 40)  - and those that have been added                                                               
in  the last  several years  (slide  41). Moving  south to  north                                                               
there are  the Anchor  River Chinook  salmon weir,  the Ninilchik                                                               
and  Crooked  Chinook salmon  weirs  and  brood stock  collection                                                               
sites.   He  noted   that  within   their  array   of  escapement                                                               
enumeration  are indexing  processes both  within Cook  Inlet and                                                               
statewide.  A  weir  is  the  most  precise  means  of  measuring                                                               
escapement along with  sonar, which is the most  costly.  Whereas                                                               
aerial and foot surveys are  the least costly and imprecise. That                                                               
is why they  are often referred to as  "escapement indices" (some                                                               
unknown  fraction  or poorly  quantified  fraction  of the  total                                                               
escapement.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The  Ninilchik,  Crooked  and  Deception  Creek  weirs  are  also                                                               
employed  for enhancement  activities or  brood stock  collection                                                               
whereby  eggs  are taken  and  transported  to the  William  Jack                                                               
Hatchery in Anchorage for rearing and subsequent release.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:09:34 PM                                                                                                                    
Slide 41  contained a  list of more  recent projects,  those that                                                               
have been  conducted for  less than five  years in  their current                                                               
form  and  that  have  been   added  either  through  CIP  funds,                                                               
increments,  or  contractual  funds  such as  those  from  Alaska                                                               
Energy Authority or Sustainable Salmon funds.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The Lewis  and Theodore weirs  operations were extended  to count                                                               
coho  salmon owing  to the  cost  savings of  already having  the                                                               
weirs for counting Chinook established.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The Alexander Creek project, the  control project, was started in                                                               
2008 as a pilot netting  program. With this information they were                                                               
able to  secure funds from AKSSSF  to expand the program  and now                                                               
with the  legislative increment  they will be  able to  move from                                                               
aerial survey to counting Chinook and coho salmon via weir.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SWANTON  said  he  wanted to  highlight  the  Susitna  River                                                               
project that  in 2013 for the  first time staff had  been able to                                                               
estimate  drainage-wide  escapements  of both  Chinook  and  coho                                                               
salmon.  In 2013  approximately 89,000  Chinook and  160,000 coho                                                               
escaped into  this drainage. This  project will continue  in 2014                                                               
as part  of AEA, and  then the  Chinook salmon component  will be                                                               
funded  using Chinook  Salmon  Research  Initiative funds  moving                                                               
into the future.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
They will  also embark  on a  number of  habitat-related projects                                                               
using  funds appropriated  from  the  legislature, which  include                                                               
inventory of beaver dams for  future removal, finishing a problem                                                               
culvert  inventory and  replacement  program  and prioritizing  a                                                               
wetlands  habitat  inventory for  the  Mat-Su.  These funds  were                                                               
provided to the department via CIP.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:11:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SWANTON  explained  that  the   department  has  used  sonar                                                               
technology on the  Kenai River for a lengthy period  of time as a                                                               
means to  count king  salmon. The new  Didson or  Aris technology                                                               
allowed  them  to improve  their  precision  in counting  Chinook                                                               
salmon over  previous techniques. A  CIP of $1.8 million  in FY13                                                               
allowed them  to conduct two  sonar sites,  both at 8.6  mile and                                                               
13.7 mile,  which is above  tidal influence. They  have conducted                                                               
mark  recapture and  radio tracking  fish to  further refine  and                                                               
improve their escapement and enumeration program.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The first year  of paired counts was in 2013  and they anticipate                                                               
with several more  years being able to move the  sonar program to                                                               
mile  13.7, which  is  above tidal  influence  and improve  their                                                               
estimates.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:12:22 PM                                                                                                                    
He touched  on a number  of enhancement projects for  Chinook and                                                               
coho salmon within Cook Inlet.  By enhancement he meant they have                                                               
sites where  they take eggs, incubate,  and rear the fish  to the                                                               
smolt stage  and then  release them  into the  ocean environment.                                                               
These fish  come back and support  a variety of marine  and fresh                                                               
water sport  fisheries. He pointed  out that they  received funds                                                               
from  the  legislature  in  2013   specific  to  the  Mat-Su  for                                                               
increased production  of Chinook salmon at  Deception and Eklutna                                                               
Tail Race.  At both of  these locations  the number of  fish they                                                               
projected to release increased markedly in 2014.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The  new Jack  Hernandez Hatchery  has allowed  them to  increase                                                               
both the quantity and the quality  as measured by weight in grams                                                               
of these  fish. They believe  that right  around 14 grams  is the                                                               
optimum size  for Chinook  salmon smolt  releases and  that's why                                                               
there is a slight reduction in size.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:13:45 PM                                                                                                                    
He  presented  another  map  of  release  sites  and  enhancement                                                               
activities around Cook Inlet.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:14:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MICCICHE  asked what riparian  management plans  they are                                                               
talking about.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SWANTON replied  that elements  within the  management plans                                                               
have  a  riparian  habitat  component to  them  and  the  board's                                                               
Sustainable  Salmon Fisheries  Management  Policy  has a  habitat                                                               
component. Here  he is referring  to riparian  habitat components                                                               
within some of the plans that  instruct the department to, in one                                                               
case, present  to the board  activities that have taken  place in                                                               
riparian habitat.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE  asked if  they are  still doing  aerial studies                                                               
for comparisons of before and after.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON  answered no,  not lately. They  are more  focused on                                                               
those areas that  appear to be impacted  by recreational anglers.                                                               
The board  had closed  some areas  to recreational  anglers along                                                               
the banks, but the department had  not done any intensive work in                                                               
that regard.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:16:43 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  asked if they  were both fish biologists  and what                                                               
their credentials are.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. LINGNAU  replied that his  college degree is in  zoology, but                                                               
his career  began with  the State  of Alaska in  1985 and  he has                                                               
spent 13 years  working on the Yukon in a  suite of positions; he                                                               
had also  spent seven years  in Kotzebue assisting  that fishery.                                                               
Although he  came to Cook Inlet  in 2005, compared to  most folks                                                               
he is a "newbie."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:17:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SWANTON replied that he has  a Bachelor of Science in Biology                                                               
with an  emphasis on  aquatic ecology, a  Bachelor of  Science in                                                               
Fishery Science  with an emphasis  on statistics, and  a Master's                                                               
Degree in Fishery  Science with an emphasis  on salmon population                                                               
dynamics and statistics.  He has worked since he had  hair on his                                                               
head.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL asked  if they are the folks the  write the fishery                                                               
plans or is it the Board of Fish.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON answered that these  elements of the management plans                                                               
are in  essence put in place  in consultation with the  board and                                                               
the department. In a lot of  cases it's a back and forth, relying                                                               
on the department  to answer the simple question  "Can you manage                                                               
this fishery with these elements?" It's a collaborative effort.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL asked if their  recommendations are typically taken                                                               
by the board or does it have its own ideas.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SWANTON characterized  it as  depending on  the board  and a                                                               
little bit of both.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FAIRCLOUGH  asked him about  the habits of pike.  Does it                                                               
migrate?                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:21:03 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SWANTON  responded that  pike are not  endemic to  systems on                                                               
the  south side  of the  Alaska Range.  Based upon  backtracking,                                                               
pike were first introduced in the  late 1950s in a "pothole lake"                                                               
in  the  Mat-Su  drainage.  Over  the  course  of  time,  through                                                               
flooding, pike  have spread. Their spawning  habitat is generally                                                               
shallow:  under 4  or  5  feet and  in  reedy  or acquatic  sedge                                                               
vegetation  that warms  up quickly  in the  spring time.  Systems                                                               
that have  those characteristics would be  favorable towards pike                                                               
spawning and juvenile rearing.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
They believe  that through flooding  and high water  events, pike                                                               
will move seasonally into deeper  basins for over-wintering. They                                                               
will, in fact, move from lakes  into river systems where there is                                                               
a steady flow (such as in  the Interior), and then move back into                                                               
spawning  areas and  in  some  cases underneath  the  ice in  the                                                               
spring and  prepare themselves for spawning.  Generally, they are                                                               
very  voracious  and  cannibalistic,  and pretty  much  will  eat                                                               
anything that moves.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
In the  case of Alexander Creek,  that used to be  a fairly large                                                               
high-profile Chinook and coho salmon  fishery back in the day and                                                               
Alexander  Lake  is  relatively shallow  with  plenty  of  weeds:                                                               
premium pike-spawning habitat. They focused  on some of the slews                                                               
and  other areas  where  the pike  will spawn  and  move with  an                                                               
intensive  netting program:  catching the  pike and  disposing of                                                               
them. They have seen some  encouraging signs with regards to that                                                               
project, but he wasn't sure  they could be completely eradicated.                                                               
They  have seen  signs  where distribution  of  Chinook and  coho                                                               
juveniles has  gone to  where they  haven't seen  it in  the past                                                               
handful of years.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He said  the department  is working  on another  fairly intensive                                                               
project   in   Soldotna  Creek   that   involves   a  series   of                                                               
interconnected lakes using  a toxin to fish.  If it's successful,                                                               
that approach could be used in other Mat-Su areas.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:25:07 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FAIRCLOUGH  asked if the  fish go between fresh  and salt                                                               
water.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SWANTON said  he  had  heard reports  of  them  in salt  and                                                               
brackish waters,  but he didn't  know how many.  Their migrations                                                               
are mostly between and within a drainage.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FAIRCLOUGH asked  how long poison has to be  in the water                                                               
to affect the pike.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON  replied that he  didn't think  it was that  long; in                                                               
some  cases there  are repeated  applications  simply because  of                                                               
wanting to make sure the Rotenone has comprehensive mixing.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:27:10 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FAIRCLOUGH asked  if they typically go after  pike in the                                                               
winter or the summer.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON  answered generally they  make these  applications in                                                               
the fall.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FAIRCLOUGH asked if there was  a way to go after the pike                                                               
in the winter when water is  frozen so chemical exposure would be                                                               
less and less poison could be used.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:28:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SWANTON  responded that he  would provide her with  "a wealth                                                               
of  detailed  information"  on   applications.  Rotenone  is  not                                                               
poisonous  to humans;  it  affects oxygen  transfer  in the  fish                                                               
gills, so they essentially quit breathing.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL recapped  that  the native  species  of salmon  is                                                               
captured and taken  to hatcheries, then Rotenone  is applied. She                                                               
asked the native species is restocked.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SWANTON replied  basically when  their assessment  indicates                                                               
the pike  are gone using traps  in the spring and  fall and maybe                                                               
another follow in the next spring.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:31:02 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP asked if birds help transplant pike.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SWANTON answered  that people  have postulated  a number  of                                                               
vectors with regards  to invasive species and  it's possible that                                                               
a migratory  bird could have picked  up a pike egg,  because they                                                               
are relatively adhesive.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BISHOP  said he heard the  pike were stocked in  one lake                                                               
in the 1950s.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON said  some of their earlier  documentation tracked it                                                               
to that period of time.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BISHOP remarked that a lot  of people live where the pike                                                               
are  in  Fairbanks; some  people  really  enjoy ice  fishing  and                                                               
became very efficient at going after them.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON responded that he  had observed Interior pike fishing                                                               
on the  Chatanika River and  he knew that  a number of  people in                                                               
the Mat-Su ice-fish for pike, but pike are in quite a few spots.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:35:04 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MICCICHE said  the department  does an  amazing job  and                                                               
asked if  the board has the  ability to introduce more  east side                                                               
setnet areas  so that fishing  could be  opened when fish  are on                                                               
the beach in that locale.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:35:51 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  LINGNAU  answered  that   two  Kenai/Kasilof  sections  were                                                               
married  after  July 8,  but  they  are not  necessarily  managed                                                               
together. By  regulation the  department has  time and  area; for                                                               
instance, if Kenai  River king salmon are short,  they may choose                                                               
to fish the Kasilof section but not the Kenai section.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE  said this plan  does not allow  subdividing the                                                               
Kasilof or Kenai sections.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LINGNAU said  that was  correct in  terms of  dividing those                                                               
sections into smaller areas.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE  asked if  there is genetic  code for  rivers of                                                               
origin for coho in the Cook Inlet.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:38:23 PM                                                                                                                    
BILL   TEMPLIN,  Principal   Geneticist,  Genetics   Lab,  Alaska                                                               
Department of  Fish and  Game (ADF&G), answered  that there  is a                                                               
significant amount  of genetic diversity  in coho salmon  in Cook                                                               
Inlet.  It's  not  necessarily  always  down  to  the  individual                                                               
stream, but  it seems  to be  organized around  larger drainages.                                                               
Initial  work on  coho salmon  genetics in  Cook Inlet  indicated                                                               
there is  a sufficient  amount of  genetic distinction  among the                                                               
larger   population   groups   that   it  could   be   used   for                                                               
identification of  proportional contribution  to harvest  in Cook                                                               
Inlet, which they are working on right now.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MICCICHE  asked  if  the   board  had  asked  him  about                                                               
potential conflicts with the halibut  charter fleet in later July                                                               
in the Anchor  Point section where hundreds of  charter boats are                                                               
going to  have interactions  where they  previously had  few with                                                               
drift gillnetters.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON replied that he couldn't  speak for staff, but he was                                                               
not personally asked.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:40:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH  went to  slide 16 of  low escapements  and picked                                                               
out Goose Creek and asked what turns that around.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON answered  that the board looks at  what fisheries are                                                               
inducing  mortality on  the stock  and in  consultation with  the                                                               
department, figure  out where it  exists in terms of  harvest and                                                               
then do  whatever it can to  minimize it. Beyond the  past six or                                                               
eight  years there  has been  poor ocean  rearing conditions  for                                                               
Alaska Chinook salmon, which they can't do a lot about.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH  said it  seems like the  one tool  the department                                                               
has  is  closures for  commercial  king  fishing but  there  just                                                               
aren't many of them left.  He  heard him say they are just hoping                                                               
the ocean changes to bring more fish back.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SWANTON said  when  he  refers to  ocean  conditions, he  is                                                               
talking  about  forage,  temperature,  and  production  that  are                                                               
favorable for  Chinook salmon. For  example, right now,  they are                                                               
probably  looking at  smolt  to  adult survival  of  less than  1                                                               
percent;  whereas in  better conditions  they would  look at  3-5                                                               
percent smolt survival.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BISHOP  observed that a  Columbia River  hatchery program                                                               
indicated that  for all the  eggs and smolt  that go back  in the                                                               
river, they get a 1 percent return.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:45:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SWANTON  explained that when  they talked about 1  percent in                                                               
terms  of those  hatcheries they  were  talking about  an egg  to                                                               
subsequent adult.  For comparative purposes, those  fish that are                                                               
being  produced  in the  Columbia  will  have record  returns  of                                                               
adults this year, which is just the converse situation here.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:46:31 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  asked who was  doing the study that  tracked kings                                                               
back to their home streams.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON replied that was the  Katana study, a sonic tag study                                                               
contracted through the department  for distribution and migration                                                               
information over  the course  of one  year. Some  of the  work is                                                               
done  elsewhere,  almost coast-wide  and  that  is referenced  in                                                               
their  presentation, was  coded wire  tagging, which  has been  a                                                               
long-standing approach  to tag  smolts or  juveniles. You  put an                                                               
alpha-numeric coded piece  of wire into their snout  and clip the                                                               
adipose  fin for  identification.  The code  indicates when  that                                                               
fish was released,  when it was tagged, and its  river of origin;                                                               
it  can  be  done  pretty  much  at  any  point  in  their  ocean                                                               
migration. It has been done for a lengthy period of time.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL asked what they learned from the one-year study.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON  answered that some  things were verified:  that king                                                               
salmon tend  to mill  in the  ocean in and  around the  mouths of                                                               
their natal streams more so  than other species. Sockeye are more                                                               
directional and the king salmon tend to travel deeper.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL  asked  if  that informed  the  guidance  for  the                                                               
setnetters in terms  of having their nets higher  and a different                                                               
net size.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON responded that they must  ask BOF. A task force was a                                                               
precursor  to this  board meeting  about a  year and  a half  ago                                                               
talking about what restrictions could  be brought to the board by                                                               
the  sport,  commercial  and   personal  use  fisheries.  Certain                                                               
representatives of  the setnetters  were talking  about shallower                                                               
nets at  that time, which  would have  been precursive to  any of                                                               
the information  that came from  the study.   But he  didn't know                                                               
where the board stood.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE  said the  sample size was  pretty low  for king                                                               
salmon in that study.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON answered  that he didn't have the  numbers of samples                                                               
in  his  head, but  it  was  limited  compared to  other  tagging                                                               
studies. He  didn't know  if their  sampling objectives  had been                                                               
met.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:51:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  LINGNAU  said  the  project  was to  tag  70  kings  and  70                                                               
sockeyes, but only 51 sockeyes and 25 kings were tagged.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE  said they  know there will  be more  kings some                                                               
time. In  times of  low abundance  everyone has  to give  up some                                                               
fish.  What is  the department  doing to  ensure that  every fish                                                               
survives until the times of adequate abundance returns?                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON said  the department has already  announced they will                                                               
close  the early  run completely.  He  didn't know  of any  other                                                               
precursive mortality in the marine  environment by any user group                                                               
at that point in time.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE said he supported  that decision and his goal is                                                               
to help any way  he can to make sure the  fisheries in the Valley                                                               
that are  currently challenged  return to  adequate productivity.                                                               
Maybe there are  habitat challenges and he asked  who is managing                                                               
water  quantity and  quality  in areas  that  could be  affecting                                                               
abundance  in  some of  those  streams.  The  Kenai River  had  a                                                               
similar  water  quality  issue  a  few  years  back  and  it  was                                                               
difficult  to get  an agency  to  say yes,  by golly,  we have  a                                                               
hydrocarbon problems and we're going to work on it.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SWANTON   replied  that  the  Department   of  Environmental                                                               
Conservation  (DEC) is  the agency  that has  been involved  with                                                               
hydrocarbons and  turbidity and  designations with regard  to the                                                               
Kenai and Little Susitna.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:55:53 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MICCICHE  said there is  no doubt  in his mind  that they                                                               
want what  is best  for fish, but  he thinks there  is a  gap. He                                                               
asked Mr.  Swanton if he would  at least consider a  system where                                                               
agencies   work  toward   those  objectives   that  have   shared                                                               
responsibilities  in   the  future.  Is   there  some   room  for                                                               
improvement?                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON said he would take the issue up with him after the                                                                  
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL said this meeting wrapped up salmon week.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:58:36 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL adjourned the Senate Resources Standing Committee                                                                 
meeting at 4:58 p.m.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

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SRES ADF&G Upper Cook Inlet Presentation 20140328.pdf SRES 3/28/2014 3:30:00 PM